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one point or as is also known the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. speaking of the election, you guys, the vice-presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready. and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannonball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy. >> tonight jimmy welcomes christopher watkin and pete townsend. that is "late night with jimmy fallon." >>> all right. time now for entertainment news. one of hollywood's most enduring couples are calling it quits. danny devito and reea pearlman separated after 30 years of marriage. the two met in 1978. they have three children together, all in their 20s. there's no word yet on what caused the split. i was surprised by that. okay, katy perry went all out for her performance at president obama's l.a. fund-raiser sunday night. complete with a special manicure. there were photos of the president and the democrat donk donkey. >>> first justin bieber and now lady gaga. the singer got sick not on
one point or as is also known the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. speaking of the election, you guys, the vice-presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready. and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannonball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy. >> tonight jimmy welcomes christopher watkin and pete townsend. that is "late night with jimmy...
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politics says president obama blinked at a rate of 70.8 times per minute last week. much more than mitt romney. it's a measure of stress, but does it definitely say which candidate will win in november? on "meet the press," nbc political director chuck todd said that president obama may have a problem because hispanic voters are not as enthuse see as 12ik as they were in 2008. >> even though he's going to get more hispanics if less of them turn out, it's a net zero and yet you look at republican enthusiasm up, senior enthusiasm up. by the way, all of this, pre-debate. >>> on abc's this week paul krugman hammered the media for not fact checking mitt romney in the debate. >> the news media will not cover me as long as i forcefully say he won. >> the press is against obama now? >> it doesn't know how to handle untruths. >>> and a strange political endorsement online from that wild and crazy guy, steve martin. he made a issatira krzyzewski video on how to use paper and paper clips. >>> and that is your morning dish of scrambles politics. >>> and now here's your "first lo
politics says president obama blinked at a rate of 70.8 times per minute last week. much more than mitt romney. it's a measure of stress, but does it definitely say which candidate will win in november? on "meet the press," nbc political director chuck todd said that president obama may have a problem because hispanic voters are not as enthuse see as 12ik as they were in 2008. >> even though he's going to get more hispanics if less of them turn out, it's a net zero and yet you...
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there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of the ryan budget cuts. >> right. rom uh any down played the ryan road map. keep in mind the first ryan budget plan included privatizing social security, at least to a certain extent. that's something ryan then dropped in his subsequent budgets. it was there and he was one of the advocates of the plan to put it in the market. secondly the medicare issue. those entitlements, we'll ha from biden about thursday. a lot of democrats think he dropped the ball not pushing the issues against mitt romney. joe biden will read ryan's book and go after those entitlements. >> up next, as mitt romney focus
there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of...
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that's only, you know, kind of become clear in the last few weeks. >> you've talked about that. obama is actually in the better position to be winning. >> should be winning, counter intuitive when unemployment is stuck over 8%. >> what do you mean? >> we have so few presidential elections in the modern era, once every four years, there's not a lot of data. what you find is like look at 1980 with jimmy carter losing, incumbent president, 1992, george bush losing, after one term. you had basically the economy was going in the wrong -- it was not growing. it has been growing under obama. it's not explosive growth like ronald reagan had in 1984, able to win 49 states, but it's been slowly growing. you have that and you have another thing that political scientists kind of found there seems to be an advantage the less time your party has been in the white house, the more -- so bush sr. in '92 that's 12 years of republican rule. people are itching for change at that point. four years coming in off what obama inherited is a different situation. >> you know, one thing i would say is that
that's only, you know, kind of become clear in the last few weeks. >> you've talked about that. obama is actually in the better position to be winning. >> should be winning, counter intuitive when unemployment is stuck over 8%. >> what do you mean? >> we have so few presidential elections in the modern era, once every four years, there's not a lot of data. what you find is like look at 1980 with jimmy carter losing, incumbent president, 1992, george bush losing, after...
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week? >> it's no surprise that barack obama raised this much money. we knew they was going to raise this much money all along. in 2004, john kerry out-raised president bush, and we all know how that turned out. so i think, you know, yes, he raised a lot of money. the president, or, excuse me, governor romney has raised $12 million since wednesday. so it's been a shot in the arm for the romney campaign too. >> and that's online as well. >> it's 60% -- >> we're not talking about major donors. we're talking about people who saw his debate and liked what they saw. >> 60% of them are new donors. so i think the romney campaign is very pleased with this. and what you saw tuesday night in the debate, you took the money off the table, you had the president and governor trromney speaking unfiltered to the people, and people really liked what they heard from mitt romney. >> but some people might not consider exactly what mitt romney said as unfiltered. take a listen to what he said about cutting taxes
week? >> it's no surprise that barack obama raised this much money. we knew they was going to raise this much money all along. in 2004, john kerry out-raised president bush, and we all know how that turned out. so i think, you know, yes, he raised a lot of money. the president, or, excuse me, governor romney has raised $12 million since wednesday. so it's been a shot in the arm for the romney campaign too. >> and that's online as well. >> it's 60% -- >> we're not talking...
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. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused on is what kind of performance does each man need to have? i do think that the fact that -- remember, president obama was not good at debates during the last cycle. he got better throughout the course of the debates. so did mitt romney. seeing what performances are like, i think the stakes are very high for both men. that's not his problem. his problem is that he is able to have one good day, not two good days. he needs to have a solid wednesday and be solid thursday, friday. otherwise it looks like another fluke. you prepared for one performance but your campaign is in disarray. you don't have answers to questions. you can't give details to policies. but you're making big promises. that's not going to work for
. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused on is what kind of performance does each man need to have? i do think that the fact that -- remember, president obama was not good at...
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governor romney had a good week talking about the economy. they want to definele what will be talked about this week on the if foreign policy front. they'll have a hearing about what went on the in libya on the security side leading up to the attack there. that's what he wants to set the stage for. if they talk about foreign policy this week, he wants it to define the terms on which we have that debate. >> because words matter, you started off with with saying i think that's what governor romney was talking about. an ongoing investigation into what happened in libya. obviously, aa he great concern. but you could not answer that question with certainty of what epic failure governor romney and republicans believe has happened over the past four years under this president's leadership, under secretary of state hillary clinton here. that is still unclear even after that 25-minute speech a couple of hours ago. >> he made the case that the middle east is not more stable here. that's a failure that he wants to talk about. he made a case that terrori
governor romney had a good week talking about the economy. they want to definele what will be talked about this week on the if foreign policy front. they'll have a hearing about what went on the in libya on the security side leading up to the attack there. that's what he wants to set the stage for. if they talk about foreign policy this week, he wants it to define the terms on which we have that debate. >> because words matter, you started off with with saying i think that's what governor...
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exactly four weeks from election day, mitt romney leads president obama fors the first time in some post-debate polls. romney's biggest gains in michigan andmo
exactly four weeks from election day, mitt romney leads president obama fors the first time in some post-debate polls. romney's biggest gains in michigan andmo
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mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is preparing for a co comeback and joking about the last performance. >> everybody here incredible professionals, such great friends and they just perform flawlessly. night after night. i can't always say the same. >> i want to bring in perry bacon and robert costa. good morning, guys. >> good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> so, what do you think? does this poll give the obama campaign something to worry about? what do you think, perry? >> i think the debate performance gave them something to worry about. you have seen democrats very strongly critical of his debate performance. the poll itself shows the race
mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is...
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and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away, and the only thing that snaps it back is this feeling of things aren't -- >> the race was always going to be close. i don't think anybody would deny that. but let's be clear. let's look at where we've come. 800,000 jobs were being lost the first time the president read the unemployment report. i know these are just statistics for people in washington. that's real lives in america. 31 consecutive months of positive job growth. are we growing as fast as we'd like to? no. but it takes a long time to dig out of this avalanche of tremendously bad decisions that preceded the obama presidency. and let's understand this. one thing they saw i
and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away, and the only thing that...
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last week, the obama administration announced it favored canceling a 16-year-old $3.5 billion tomato trade deal with mexico. the deal encourages imports and has kept tomato prices low. but florida growers say they're so low they can't catch up. the numbers show mexican tomato sales have quadruple since 2000 while florida has seen its cut shrink dramatically. after a flurry of letters from lawmakers, the commerce department decided to repd the trade agreement be scrapped. mexico growers were stunned, upset they hadn't been granted a meeting until after the decision. why did the decision get rushed? presidential politic, the influence of those florida growers might have played just a small role. michael isakoff is nbc's national investigative correspondent. it's an election year and hearing about issues like this, oh, favoritism of this front for florida. favoritism on that front for ohio. it shouldn't come as a shock and yet, we see it play out every year. four years, excuse me. >> this is a fascinating look about how to use the levers of power of incumbency to help yourself in an ele
last week, the obama administration announced it favored canceling a 16-year-old $3.5 billion tomato trade deal with mexico. the deal encourages imports and has kept tomato prices low. but florida growers say they're so low they can't catch up. the numbers show mexican tomato sales have quadruple since 2000 while florida has seen its cut shrink dramatically. after a flurry of letters from lawmakers, the commerce department decided to repd the trade agreement be scrapped. mexico growers were...
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earlier in the week, the pennsylvania judge ruling that voter i.d. rules, they can't be imment impleme implemented. how does that affect another key state? >> people were worried the pennsylvania voter i.d. law could make the pennsylvania contest a little closer than the polls subject. right now president obama in most polls in the keystone state is up in high double digits. this could disproportion knitly affect minorities and others seen to be democratic voters, could end up hurting them, but this ruling that the pennsylvania voter i.d. law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still looking for good polls. right now it'
earlier in the week, the pennsylvania judge ruling that voter i.d. rules, they can't be imment impleme implemented. how does that affect another key state? >> people were worried the pennsylvania voter i.d. law could make the pennsylvania contest a little closer than the polls subject. right now president obama in most polls in the keystone state is up in high double digits. this could disproportion knitly affect minorities and others seen to be democratic voters, could end up hurting...
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that has helped the obama administration and the obama campaign define him and i think he pushed back against that with the humor. >> let me look forward and ask you, mark halperin, what do you anticipate coming up now? next week we've got the two vice presidents -- the vice president and his challenger paul ryan there and how about the town hall format for barack obama? the conventional wisdom has been because everybody has bill clinton in their mind that the democrat, president obama, will do better in the town hall relating and empathizing and showing he connects to people. i'm not so sure about this president. >> well, i'm not so sure, although both of them will be -- i think the strongest mitt romney has been in my experience as a presidential candidate on the debate the other night was the events he did in both cycles last campaign in 2008 and this one, his so-called ask mitt anything events where he did take questions from people. he showed humor and the kind of fluidness and personality that he showed in the depate ba in those events and people that think this format clearly f
that has helped the obama administration and the obama campaign define him and i think he pushed back against that with the humor. >> let me look forward and ask you, mark halperin, what do you anticipate coming up now? next week we've got the two vice presidents -- the vice president and his challenger paul ryan there and how about the town hall format for barack obama? the conventional wisdom has been because everybody has bill clinton in their mind that the democrat, president obama,...
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. >> the current president, president obama was on the show last week. the challenger, mitch romney has not been on the show. we have asked him to be on the show. we have any night, any time, short notice, whenever he wants, he can be on the show. he's got 39 days. i don't want to persuade anybody unnecessarily, but if he's not here in 39 days, don't vote for him. >> coming up, one of paul ryan's jbs is to help people forget about mitch romney's 47% comment but ryan stumbled and brought it up yesterday on fox news. he really did. . >>> in the rewrite tonight, now everyone knows what they should have known when he should have announced his political candidacy. arnold schwarzenegger is a clown and a liar. and arnold finally agrees with me that he is stupid. a word he just used to describe himself tonight on hannity. the stupid liar, arnold schwarzenegger is in tonight's rewrite. >> with your help, we will win florida. with your help, we'll represent 100% of the american people still. and with your help, we will win this election! >> in the spotlight tonigh
. >> the current president, president obama was on the show last week. the challenger, mitch romney has not been on the show. we have asked him to be on the show. we have any night, any time, short notice, whenever he wants, he can be on the show. he's got 39 days. i don't want to persuade anybody unnecessarily, but if he's not here in 39 days, don't vote for him. >> coming up, one of paul ryan's jbs is to help people forget about mitch romney's 47% comment but ryan stumbled and...
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as i said, of course vice president biden is spending the week at his home. but paul ryan, i would point out, has gone to his home in janisville, wisconsin, fairly frequently as being picked as romney's running mate so he can do this debate prep. but i would say the expectations are much higher for paul ryan going into the debate than they are for joe biden, which, as we know, when expectations are higher, then that candidate can tend to have a bigger problem. so i think joe biden probably will outperform the expectations for him on thursday night. >> well, to both of you, what are paul ryan's strengths and weaknesses going into this debate? >> i think probably his strengths is that he is a fresh face. that gives a lot of opportunity coming into something where you can introduce yourself to the country. and on a big stage, the downside i think for paul vine the inexperience on such a stage. he's really not only been on the national stage debating, but even on a congressional level, he hasn't had a competitive race since his first one in 1996. so i think he's
as i said, of course vice president biden is spending the week at his home. but paul ryan, i would point out, has gone to his home in janisville, wisconsin, fairly frequently as being picked as romney's running mate so he can do this debate prep. but i would say the expectations are much higher for paul ryan going into the debate than they are for joe biden, which, as we know, when expectations are higher, then that candidate can tend to have a bigger problem. so i think joe biden probably will...
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one point, or as it's also known, the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. huh? speaking of the election, you guys, the vice presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannon ball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy, but i can -- >>> and with us now from washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist, msnbc political analyst eugene robinson. i've got to ask you the big question, are you for the nats or for the orioles? >> i've got to be for the nats, although we're a mixed marriage. my wife was born in baltimore. >> oh. >> not an ill word can be said about the baltimore orioles in my house. >> yeah. >> nonetheless, i'm following the nats and cheering the nats. but, you know, the orioles are playing the yankees last night and beat them. you've got to root against the yankees, right? >> of course you do. if you love -- well, i mean, only if you love america. >> yes, right. >> i do love america. >> you do lo
one point, or as it's also known, the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. huh? speaking of the election, you guys, the vice presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannon ball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy, but i can -- >>> and with us now from washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist, msnbc...
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"michelle obama which is visit durango. she's expected to promote early voting there which begins in a couple of weeks. >>> from extreme eastern washington state the front page of the "moscow-pullman daily news" about how homecoming is crucial to the town of moscow idaho and the president of washington state university recommending tuition rates should not rise higher than the rate of inflation. >>> now to our weekend weather. folks in colorado dealing with the first touch of the white stuff. not much accumulation but frigid with lows falling into the 20s. nbc meteorologist stephanie abrams has news about the rest of the country. >> big changes across a big chunk of the country. there's a solid cold front. we have that rain and clouds right now extending anywhere from the northeast all the way back down to the south. that is the weathermaker. ahead of that, warm temperatures. behind it cold temperatures. take a quick screen grab of that. as i change the graphic you're going to see those temperatures in the 60s all the way u
"michelle obama which is visit durango. she's expected to promote early voting there which begins in a couple of weeks. >>> from extreme eastern washington state the front page of the "moscow-pullman daily news" about how homecoming is crucial to the town of moscow idaho and the president of washington state university recommending tuition rates should not rise higher than the rate of inflation. >>> now to our weekend weather. folks in colorado dealing with the...
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either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicar
either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto...
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we expect to see a lot more of that in the weeks leading up to the debate. this campaign after going through 19 debates in the primary season knows how important the face offs can be in changing the narrative. >> nbc campaign garrett hakke with the romney campaign in florida. thank you very much for that update. >>> the latest poll shows an extremely tight race in the sunshine state. it is a statistical dead heat with president obama leading 47% to 46%. joining me now is scott arseno, executive director of the florida democratic party, and lenny curry, chairman of the state's republican party. thanks to both of you. len. >> thank you so much. >> lenny, let's start with you. republican supporters have suggested someone may have cooked the books. big conspiracy theories surrounding this whole thing when it comes to the drop in the unemployment numbers. does the republican party really expect the american people to believe that? >> let me start with a little irony. we were talking backstage. i'm a florida gator. scott is an lsu tiger, and both of our teams are
we expect to see a lot more of that in the weeks leading up to the debate. this campaign after going through 19 debates in the primary season knows how important the face offs can be in changing the narrative. >> nbc campaign garrett hakke with the romney campaign in florida. thank you very much for that update. >>> the latest poll shows an extremely tight race in the sunshine state. it is a statistical dead heat with president obama leading 47% to 46%. joining me now is scott...
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we'll see how the polls go this week. and he is going, president obama, monday, to california for caesar chavez. he signed an executive order to say this is where chavez is buried. it is going to be part of our national park service. >> where -- >> yeah, it is la paz, and he will be there with the widow of caesar cheavez, the widow. and mitt romney screwed up, when he was a let hard on the mexican-american vote. you see president obama making a big play with ken salazar, the hispanic, and the whole clan. watch for the sound bite to be very moving. >> do you think -- >> paul ryan has -- is an intellect, and joe biden is a consummate pro. so i think you will see a really spirited one. so you will have joe biden throwing punches and paul ryan punching back. and in fact, if you're going to have a pop corn debate, one that doesn't bore you. first of all, while mitt romney was pretty good, it was boring, this one should be very fascinating. >> we'll have you back, thank you. >>> and ever since mitt romney talked about firing bi
we'll see how the polls go this week. and he is going, president obama, monday, to california for caesar chavez. he signed an executive order to say this is where chavez is buried. it is going to be part of our national park service. >> where -- >> yeah, it is la paz, and he will be there with the widow of caesar cheavez, the widow. and mitt romney screwed up, when he was a let hard on the mexican-american vote. you see president obama making a big play with ken salazar, the...
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to turn this around for romney in the final weeks. what we're seeing now i think is that may not be the case and the october surprise everyone always talks about is, in fact, that we're back where we were in the spring. it's a very close race. >> and in fact, to the point of both of the campaigns, they've been saying all along they thought in the end this was going to be a very tight race, but some of the numbers that really jump out for me, jackie, are enthusiasm and engagement. 67% of romney's supporters now back him strongly. 82% say they're giving a lot of thought to this election. this was a guy who going into his convention, and not the most successful convention, either, was still having trouble getting people really excited about his campaign. has he turned that around? >> you know, there's two things here. i mean, we talked about this all the way going up to the debate how important that debate was, and it was very important for mitt romney, and now we're seeing the benefits for him, that he had a really good debate. the othe
to turn this around for romney in the final weeks. what we're seeing now i think is that may not be the case and the october surprise everyone always talks about is, in fact, that we're back where we were in the spring. it's a very close race. >> and in fact, to the point of both of the campaigns, they've been saying all along they thought in the end this was going to be a very tight race, but some of the numbers that really jump out for me, jackie, are enthusiasm and engagement. 67% of...
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the obama team obviously knows they had a poor showing in last week's debate. so they've got to gain some traction here. booiden is a really good debate. i think you'll see ryan be mr. wonky. that's his role. a lot of numbers you'll hear from him. probably more zingers from biden. i think they have some ground to make up. >> you know, i don't think a lot of people necessarily realize how much debating joe biden has done throughout the course of his career. he's run for president six or seven times. i exaggerate for effect. chair of the foreign relations committee. here's a guy who's spent a great deal of time in public in a healthy exchange of ideas. >> that's right. that's right. i think we'll see that on display. if you look back at 2008, he was probably the best debater out of the field. i think he's going to bring those skills to bear. he had a real high-wire act last time in 2008 when he had to go against sarah palin. i think he came out of that debate looking like the statesman. i think ryan has to pass the commander in chief test. i'm not sure if when pe
the obama team obviously knows they had a poor showing in last week's debate. so they've got to gain some traction here. booiden is a really good debate. i think you'll see ryan be mr. wonky. that's his role. a lot of numbers you'll hear from him. probably more zingers from biden. i think they have some ground to make up. >> you know, i don't think a lot of people necessarily realize how much debating joe biden has done throughout the course of his career. he's run for president six or...
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by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down the sidewalk without stumbling. i'm stunned by -- i mean, the republicans are excited, but i'm stunned by how democrats seem to keep getting more depressed every day. i've had people that have never voted republican in their life. >> right. >> saying i may have to do it this year. >> i think there's been that. there's also been a little bit of a back-and-forth about the jobs numbers that have made the republicans look desperate. but yes, overall, i think the debate had a terrible impact for the president and one that i think is surprisingly lasting. >> yeah, why is that? >> well, because a lot of people were watching and because you're wondering why things don't work in washington. and when you see two people go head to head and you see it be so starkly clear stylistically, you kind of wonder if that is brought home. >> that the president's disconnect -- >> yeah. so there's a lot of work to be done in the next debate. i mean, a lot of work. he's going to have to get his hands dirty. >> i take it if we're hearing th
by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down the sidewalk without stumbling. i'm stunned by -- i mean, the republicans are excited, but i'm stunned by how democrats seem to keep getting more depressed every day. i've had people that have never voted republican in their life. >> right. >> saying i may have to do it this year. >> i think there's been that. there's also been a little bit of a back-and-forth about the jobs numbers that have made the...
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here we are how many weeks later? >> i'm asking if it works coming from paul ryan. >> can i ask you a question? how many weeks? >> two and a half weeks. >> two and a half weeks later? i think we're good. what did paul ryan say, willie? he said the response was slow, confused, and it is. in the middle of all this, the president thinks it's a bump in the road. i think two weeks later, not time to ask these questions? the biggest problem before was they did it the morning after all of this erupted. >> it was bad press by them. but what we pointed out early on is it was insults to americans to propose the idea that it was based on the youtube video. that people showed up with heavy weapons, rpgs and things like that as i said before to talk about a mouth breather in the united states that 3,000 people on youtube had seen. that was the insult. that wasn't the problem, that they went out publicly and said right away it was based on the video. >> bottom line, mark halperin, you look at all the polls, americans want to get ba
here we are how many weeks later? >> i'm asking if it works coming from paul ryan. >> can i ask you a question? how many weeks? >> two and a half weeks. >> two and a half weeks later? i think we're good. what did paul ryan say, willie? he said the response was slow, confused, and it is. in the middle of all this, the president thinks it's a bump in the road. i think two weeks later, not time to ask these questions? the biggest problem before was they did it the morning...
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. ♪ >>> for the past week, both mitt romney and president obama, have you noticed this? they've been trying to lower expectations for their debate performance by insisting that they're not great debaters. based on some of their past debates, tomorrow could look like this. >> the -- uh -- >> i -- i don't want to -- >> let me just make a couple of points. my -- here's -- >> i hope they either take off the ad or make it correct. >> look, let's just be clear. >> we hired a lawn company to mow our lawn. >> as i said before -- >> and with my wife, we've, uh -- >> we have -- >> but what -- um, let's see. um -- uh, we could start with his idea to have a lunar colony that would mine minerals from the moon. >> you said that, uh -- let me just make a closing point. that made no sense whatsoever. >> can you imagine if somebody did that to us? >> uh, uh, uh -- >> no. you know what? >> that was funny. >> look at that. welcome back to "morning joe." sam stein and mark mckinnon are still with us here in washington along with mike barnicle in new york. mike, are you awake? >> i am. i am.
. ♪ >>> for the past week, both mitt romney and president obama, have you noticed this? they've been trying to lower expectations for their debate performance by insisting that they're not great debaters. based on some of their past debates, tomorrow could look like this. >> the -- uh -- >> i -- i don't want to -- >> let me just make a couple of points. my -- here's -- >> i hope they either take off the ad or make it correct. >> look, let's just be...